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People generally go in one of two directions. I don’t agree at all that a gorilla is stronger than a grizzly and a grizzly has much denser bones and much greater defense in thick fur and a major layer of padding. would be in real life, I used this analogy. Meanwhile similarly sized cougars are mostly driven off from kills by black bears, and while there are behavior and strength differences between leopards and cougars that doesn’t change the fact that black bears on average are around 100+ pounds lighter than the average gorilla yet seem to survive – and even come out on top of – worse matchups far more regularly. They are absolutely ferocious, enormous, and fighting is their life. If a 9-mm can’t stop a bear, a punch from a gorilla won’t either. Here are some studies and research on bear and gorilla strength (I even picked the most positive bear research that gives them a positive edge and a gorilla article that shows their lower end of strength from some research.) the bear is insanely strong i know.. but IF the gorilla really deceides to take him on he HAS THE TOOLS to really damage him. Grizzly, easily. Some Kodiak bears have weighed over 2000 lbs. Regardless of the type of bear as an apex predator, the list of a natural predator for bears is small, apart from other bears, humans, scavengers, and the occasional tiger. Either way the gorilla has to get off a 1 punch/bite kill WITHOUT getting hit by the bear. Gorillas are very strong – yes, but so are bears and bears are three times bigger, much more used to fighting, and armed with much more fearsome weapons. Before sharing “facts” about the characteristics of the animals consider checking your bias on the issue. There are a lot of potentially awesome animal battles out there: Jaguar vs Anaconda; Man vs Wolf; Tiger vs Crocodile. How about you showing a link that supports your claim? To help him understand what the difference I do agree that Gorillas are likely smarter but in a cage match that matters very little, as you said a human is smarter than a chimp but in a cage match the chimp wins unless the human was smart enough to bring something lethal in with them. I’d bet heavily that more than 9 Required fields are marked *, Get free exclusive content from the world's strongest powerlifters, sign up below, If you know me, you know I love theoretical animal fights. Fun to see people’s thoughts! While most encounters between the 2, are bears following tigers and taking the kill from the tiger when tigers make a kill. One researcher noted a grizzly flipped over a 700 lb bin many times with ease. Also the gorilla doesn’t need to puncture a bear’s skull to kill it so I don’t know why this is even an argument. So read about it. There is no scenario where it needs that just like how a gorilla is not designed to take impact from razor claws because other than a leopard (which once again only is recorded to attack young or small females) there is no scenario where they would need that kind of protection. I think it is debatable that pound for pound the gorilla is stronger, pound for pound strength is irrelevant in a fight that doesn’t have weight classes. 1-3/1-3/1-6 with a chance to use its rear claws for a special attack. Gorilla fight: https://youtu.be/3T0z1CT-nR8, Grizzly fight: https://youtu.be/-6r81UOzIHg. Which would win? But regardless they are absolutely awesome critters! It doesnt exist even one single strength test for the gorilla thats measurable in any good way. They also scavenge food or carcasses left behind by other animals or birds. Lights out. Grizzly goes through gorilla like gas through a funnel. The tallest mountain gorilla had a height of 1.95cm, chest 1.98m wide weighing 267kg. Who could resist being knocked down better (on either two or four feet). Although thinking that a silverback would give up easily even though they’re not known to be aggressive is a mistake, a silverback in order to protect his troop/band would fight even if it kills him. Second there is a difference between taking a bullet to the head and a cannon to the face. It has strong canine teeth that tear their prey’s flesh. Grizzlies will swipe with their claws and bite. I used to always think a grizzly would for sure win in a fight but the more that I look at the research the more I realize it is more evenly matched than we think. As an Amazon Associate, I earn from qualifying purchases, About | Privacy Policy | Contact | Advertise. In this article, we shall pit them against one another in a fight and compare their strengths to know who will win, one-on-one. Gorillas are nowhere near as strong as grizzlies. While a gorilla would be a physical match for just about anything their own size, a "maxed" grizzly is much bigger, and coupled with their claws and pelts, that's the difference. Also, yes, as the strongest terrestrial land animal pound-for-pound aside from a few beetles, the gorilla absolutely matches the strength of a bear twice its size and indeed exceeds it by a huge margin. My 7-year-old son, When you say you don’t believe it, you have zero evidence to back your claim other than just because one “looks” stronger. 700-800 lbs average, 1500 lbs largest. I just re-checked the weights for average. Gorillas are not natural born/bread killers. Gorillas tear down trees on the daily and climb ones or hand one handed while holding another tree trunk with their feet. For ages grizzlies have been pitted against other animals in matches, such as against lions, fighting bulls, packs of dogs, etc. When in doubt I always like to see if Dungeons and Dragons has already answered any of my questions – because yes D&D rules! Gorillas are not only pound for poind but overall way stronger than a bear, have superior biting force and are smarter. Who would win, a leopard vs a grizzly bear? times out of 10 the outcome would be the same. If it helps you can visualize they are contained I will take the word of kramer and say that the gorilla is stronger. The grizzly bear is strong too but there is an enormous difference between 700 pounds and even 1800 pounds. A gorilla not being aggressive is 4-9 times stronger than a human. Grizzly bears are taller than silverback gorilla and more aggressive in comparison, matching a gorilla in strength and size with a plus point on claws won’t be a problem. The next sentences don’t even make sense, it says the gorilla can “throw a 450 kg of force” which is 4.5x that of what the person did. small enough to prevent one animal from just running away but large enough so Your email address will not be published. Here our contenders are a grizzly bear with the height(8ft), weight(360kg), speed (34miles/h) and bite force(1200psi), claw size (2-4inch) against a silverback gorilla who also has the height(5-6ft), weight(195kg), speed (25miles/h) and bite force (1300psi) . Gorilla without aggression is 4-9 times stronger. 4+1  (that is about 17 up to 33 hit That's just barely more than the largest ever recorded Gorilla (266 kg). Grizzlies have very thick hides, when a large Kodiak bear died it was noted that it had a layer of fat 7 inches thick. The gorilla has very little in the way of defense. They have a relatively think and weak cranium. Bears are not nor will they ever be even close to as strong as a gorillas and people who don’t study and take the time to look into the science behind it will never understand it because it is an impossible feat for human beings to ever attain in strength. As mentioned above also, the gorilla has way less size, way less killer instinct, and less tools to fight with. A gorilla is an awesome animal and very formidable but this is a grizzly. That makes the grizzly the favorite, TO ME, a 7-3 favorite at least. If a gorilla were really 10 times stronger than it’s body weight it would NEVER fall prey something like a leopard as it does on occasion – not a knock down drag out fight, but actually intentional well documented predation. He said “of course a gorilla will win,” at Why Are We Here?, by Pendaran Haha man looks like our debate from last year sparked quite a bit more discussion in the comments since! most animal vs animal battles, assume an open grass field and assume both In this video, we go over the age old question of who would win between a Silverback Gorilla and a Grizzly Bear. Adult males are called silverbacks because of a saddle of grey or silver-colored hair that develops on their backs with age. In Rome tigers and lions fought bears on numerous occasions in the colosseum. I think the outcome would be the grizzly would slash the gorilla up pretty bad leading to it bleeding out. While gorillas are quick — making speeds of up to 20 mph — the bears have them beat. Either they pick biggest verifiable specimen on record or they go with the average animal size. The Perhaps if it had a large rock then it could do significant damage to the grizzly’s head. Gorillas are rather lousy swimmers who fear water. Grizzly bears also routinely push over trees, roll over giant stones and move other heavy objects. (The dude May be heavy and big but if they guy can lift weight over 4 times as much as you weigh and can do it twice as fast as you, your weight isn’t going to help you much) Also bone density is extremely related to muscle strength and considering the gorilla is significantly stronger than a grizzly (seriously it’s not a debate anymore, countless studies show that grizzlies are not even remotely as strong as gorillas no matter what your hunter friends say…end of discussion) a gorillas bone density easily can trump that of a grizzlies. I’m not saying that the gorilla would have some sort of runaway victory here by any stretch, but I don’t think it’s fair to say that the gorilla doesn’t possess the weapons necessary to deal lethal damage just because it lacks claws and the bear is chonky. You can say that a bear will win because that is your opinion and that’s what makes debating this fun to do with others but please don’t go telling people that bears are stronger when everything ever studied, tested, and done in the wild shows both animals have a strength limit and a bears limit is significantly smaller than a gorillas. Another population is found in Uganda’s Bwindi National Park. Hell, there’s a good chance you won’t have a face anymore if you try to fight a chimp. The match would be significantly more evenly matched than you think between a bear and gorilla. I need to put out there that my debater in me wanted to play more the role of devils advocate, so I wanted to tease the idea of it being more evenly matched but I definitely agree with you that a grizzly would basically always win due to size and having claws and being a predator. Their home range size, i.e., area, used by the gorillas during a year, varies and depends upon factors such as availability of food. A Gorilla strength test was conducted in 1924, which showed that an adult gorilla can throw a 450 kg (900 lb) of force. There’s no science in that. Literally no other land animal has such an enormous amount of strength for their size. From I want to see some scientific studies on that. My money is on the gorilla, your analysis has serious factual flaws. It’s their damn teeth. Actually the 9mm or 10mm is possibly better than a .45 for a grizzly. The Grizzly bear is a strong animal that is known to kill even humans. Also just look up research articles about their muscle fiber make up and count. *Pound for pound the gorilla takes this strength wise 1-6/1-6/1-8 plus a chance for a bear hug. Bears are so strong but gorillas are an evolutionary wonder of strength. So you ignore solid evidence that goes against your belief, but happily provide non-scientific guesswork and pure “this make sense”-nonsense to provide support for your belief, involving asking hunters about shooting at a bear and D&D. To test strength you need the animals performing the same movement against resistance and that test hasn’t been done. However, Gorilla vs. Bear goes the other way, bigtime. use a few other examples that might highlight this outcome more clearly. points), THACO: 17 (how likely it is to hit, lower is better), Damage: Leopards intentionally stay away from silverbacks because they know how strong they are and will not even attempt to attack offspring if they can see a silverback close by, look up any observation studies of leopards hunting gorillas and they will say this. I love this article but if I’m betting and I get good odds id still bet on the Gorilla. A grizzly can lift approximately 0.8 times its body weight, whereas a gorilla can lift close to *ten* times its body weight. I am a 200 lb powerlifter, almost three times In these instances the tiger will not even attempt to fight the bear. And a big leopard weighs as much as a smallish female gorilla (150-200lbs). First, these fanboy gorilla strength sci-fi fantasies needs to be shut down once and for good. Here is There will be some movements a gorilla has better strength on (pulling, holding onto to something, bending a bar); there will be some movements a bear demonstrates greater strength (towing, knocking something over, resisting being moved), etc. each attack, can do a great deal of damage with certain attacks, and is more Gorilla vs. Black Bear still goes to the ursine. Grizzly bear vs Gorilla fight comparison – who will win? A gorilla has a byte force of 1300 psi and a grizzly bear at 1200 psi so the gorilla is a better byte force but let’s talk. I like the videos but I would go with people that have more of a research background with animals than voting sites just because they are more backed by research than just simply by opinions but I did watch the videos and found them interesting and I do think they definitely make very valid points towards a grizzly winning as I can also see scenarios where a grizzly would win even though I lean towards the Siberian tiger. The humungous beasts would play fight and hard fight, not to kill but dominate. Just reach alone puts the gorilla at a HUGE disadvantage. Tim! gorilla. I wrote an exercise physiology textbook so this happens to be something I am reasonably familiar with. If you go to animalcomparison and see a tiger vs a bear, only 38% of the people think a tiger would win. A Silverback can lift 4000lbs of dead weight well a grizzly can only move 1100lbs. Grizzly bears are Omnivores, so they mostly prey on anything ranging from a rodent to a moose or an elk. 300-400 lbs average, 500 lbs largest (excluding captive obese gorillas), Weight: Thanks again for the fun debate last year though! person. For Both are compatible with each other. I think they would have similar strength. And all research shows that the gorilla is stronger. And even if you were to encounter a scenario where a leopard somehow actually managed to take down a silverback you are once again ignoring a huge factor, agility. When you re-examine the situation with the actual facts it becomes clear the gorilla loses in almost every instance. Just who is stronger? There’s no way that a gorilla is 4x stronger than a grizzly. There is no scenario where the bear is stronger. In my opinion, there is about 70% for a grizzly to win tiger, and about 30% for the tiger to win. Silverback Gorilla 24 vote(s) ... if it were a black bear vs gorilla I’d pick the gorilla. Gorilla is stronger Gorillas rarely have full on battles with something lethal. Easy just google it but if you didn’t want to do that here are some links. I don’t think that the strength info is correct. Probably because gorillas don’t have invincible squash-anything strength some wish they had while sourcing the ether for their claims. Paul Anderson backlifted over 6000 lbs, do we think a gorilla can lift 4-9 x that (so a gorilla can lift 54,000 lbs?). Not even close. The hair on their backs is shorter than on most other body parts, and their arm hair is especially long. They are generally solitary creatures who roam the forests until the time they mate with an obvious exception of female Grizzlies with her cubs. Thanks for the post. A gorilla vs a lioness, that is a good one. BisexualMMA, Sep 26, 2020 #18. The gorilla has trained to the point where a blade materializes from its sheer willpower. All of those things would kill a gorilla, and typically the bear dominates those fights. The grizzly bears located inland are smaller in size in comparison to the grizzlies located on coasts. I like these kind of debates and have fun with them. If a gorilla has a stronger bone density than a grizzly than it will not only be able to take a 9MM like a grizzly but potentially even more than that. Both bites can do damage, although the bear is covered with a very thick and is just broader overall so I would believe a grizzly can do more respective damage with its bite (in other words a grizzly biting a gorilla hurts more than a gorilla biting a grizzly, but both can do damage). The third link has a promising title but it just repeats the same statements over and over again and never cites any scientific studies. He just shot a 300 LB black bear…. If he lands first, it’s over. Who wins: A chimp vs a pit bull? It’s the only land mammal capable of lifting such outrageous amounts of weight relative to its size and deliver blows that far exceed its size. things to a grizzly. Hope you know it was all in good fun! Who could run through a wall of varying thickness/toughness This means a gorilla can strategically place itself in a position that gives it an advantage during the fight. It’s more agile, arguably. The silverbacks are an endangered species, and their population is found in Albertine Rift mountain cloud forest, spread across the borders between Rwanda, The Democratic Republic of Congo, and Uganda. A gorilla has a higher percentage of fast twitch than a bear. So to put It the best way I can it would be something like a 7-8 foot 300 pound man with the ability to lift his weight in relation to his size and with knives in both of his hands vs a 4-5 foot 150 pound man that can punch And lift with over 1,500 pounds of force and with the agility greater than that of even the most professional of boxers due to a gorilla’s center of gravity being closer to the ground which makes them more difficult to knock off their feet and more agile. In any animal vs. animal fight in the wild, there is a general presumption of bigger animal winning, with their mass and strength, with the obvious exemption of weaponry like venom in snakes. Punching a grizzly, Here is a quick outline of the stats of each animal, Weight: Their populations are found in Alaska, Western Canada, Northwest United States (Idaho, Montana, and Wyoming), and as far as Yellow Stone National Park. Mountain gorillas or silverback is a subspecies to an eastern gorilla (Gorilla bringer). That’s not even a question of debate. I am sorry if you but you think a 500 lb gorilla is stronger than a 1500 lb grizzly then you are simly mistaken, there is no evidence or logic that would support that claim. grizzly is often at least twice as heavy and can be three times as heavy as a No weapons or tools of any sort (logs, rocks, Lmao It’s a not a debate it’s a fact and it’s been proven and reproved and reproved again and again and again. The one with the better weapon. dead. https://onekindplanet.org/top-10/top-10-list-of-the-worlds-strongest-animals/, https://www.montana.edu/news/3827/msu-researcher-tests-grizzly-bear-strength-for-national-geographic-documentary, https://gorillafacts.org/how-strong-is-a-gorilla/. The first blow would be irrelevant, if these animals fought 100 times I don’t see the gorilla winning once. It is a cage Thanks for the comments. A 500lbs gorilla is stronger than a 1500lbs grizzly bear . etc) are allowed. An …, As a trainer and a coach, it is my job to simplify the concepts in fitness and health and then …, Everyone is stuck performing home workouts right now because of the COVID Pandemic. I’ll just leave this here. I do not think it does what you think it does. But I think it’s a bit much to suggest that it would be invincible. I’ve seen that reported but I don’t buy it. A gorilla does have an even more powerful bite than the bear, but it also has much smaller jaws, and would be unlikely to fasten its teeth onto enough of a bear to do serious damage before the bear could retaliate. The Internet births many questions, from the serious to the seriously absurd. Grizzly. Forests, where these gorillas live, are often cloudy, misty, and cold. The neck is too thick to choke or snap. If the two animals were put together to fight other factors should be considered such as environment, intellect, hunger, sex, age, and maternal instincts. They can put up a good show and beat their chest to scare away what is in their environment, but are suprisingly easily startled. They have the grip strength to crush the skull of an alligator just with grip strength alone. One a study done by a university on bear strength and another on gorillas strength. The gorilla would have a hard time reaching the neck of the grizzly, seeing how much shorter it is (6’ vs 9 or 10’). The gorilla would be the same height as the man with slightly longer arms, it would have significant trouble simply reaching the grizzly’s head if the grizzly was standing upright (and that angle would lose all power). Alaska, Northwestern United States, Western Canada, Virunga Volcano Ranges, Bwindi Impenetrable National park. People don’t seem to understand the Gorilla CANNOT inflict enough damage on a bear to kill it. The Gorillas are found in Africa, whereas the grizzly bear’s habitat is mainly in North America The fight between these two is a far-off call until one travels a great distance to fight the other. * The killer instinct argument of a bear: True ( but also very oppertunistic). They’re everywhere. In the Grizzly vs Yeti showdown, each company uses unique materials and techniques to produce their final product of coolers. The reason as to why these bears are called grizzlies is due to their gruesome and fear-inspiring character. This topic was even recently featured on Joe Rogan’s Podcast. Silverback gorillas are generally calm and shy; they are highly social and live in cohesive groups; they are non-territorial since they defend their groups rather than the territory. Scenario(hypoteosis): Let say we place bear into the midst of a gorilla pack, where it attacks a cub, this triggers the silverbacks instrinct to protect its pride ( its also designed to do this) If it really deceides to severly attack the Bear, I believe he could really deal life threathening damage( He wont stop attacking the bear until he falls exhaused). Fruits and insects are also an integral part of their diet. Note: Some readers want to discern between Grizzlies and the Kodiak bear. It literally is the easiest thing to do and find because your page is the only one that claims a bear is stronger than a gorilla. Therefore you can’t just say that a grizzly can take a 9MM and a gorilla can’t just because your friends would feel more comfortable shooting one over the other. A silverback definitely takes a leopard and all observation of them in the wild proves it. An impact to the head alone will cause the head to jerk one way at a great enough velocity to cause the brain to slam into the skull at such a rate that would render it unconscious and most likely kill the creature for shear brain damage. I think it depends on whether or not the grizzly gets a chance to get a swipe in with their claws before the gorilla gets close enough to deliver fatal blows. I personally tend to go with the former, but the good news is the biggest animal and the average size tend to stay in reasonable proportion to each other. armed with Wolverine claws on each hand. So you might argue that a 500 lb gorilla is stronger than a 500 lb bear, I don’t think any reasonable argument can be made that a 500 lb gorilla has a strength advantage over a 1500 lb grizzly and indeed I would argue it has a very significant strength disadvantage. We know a muscle’s strength is very closely related to its cross sectional size. Grizzlies beats both Siberian tiger and silverback hands down. 2. The only other animals that have as much strength in relation to their size are few insects. Both are extremely different animals with extreme strengths on both ends. I don’t agree that a tiger would beat a grizzly in a fight, and after a quick google search it seems most people think the grizzly would win (although it would be much closer than a gorrila vs a grizzly fight). difference. 2 times bigger than Siberian tiger, have a stronger bite (Siberian tiger 975psi, grizzly 1250psi, very big difference), and bear also have good fighting skill. I appreciate the fun discussion though. Now to take your human scenario between your son and the enormous human. Thanks for the post. Who wins in a fight between the two of us? According to the Guinness Book of World Records, a silverback gorilla can lift up to 815 kg (1800 lb). and then one that shows the strongest animals in the animal kingdom and their strength levels. He HAS to get past the claws and get off a killing blow before getting mauled or get out of reach. Females and males on inland and costal have vast differences, females (inland)on an average weigh-136kg while a costal one would weigh 227kgas for males (inland) on average weigh 272kg a costal bear would weigh 408kg.

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